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همسه ود 21-08-08 11:59 PM

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مرحبا ياجماعة
اتمنى الكل يشارك معنا
انا شايفة ان القسم الانجليزي تقريبا اصبح منتدى مستقل وبماان الكل بيحب يتناقش وكل واحد مننا عنده موضوع حابب يعرف اراء باقي الاعضاء فيه انا نزلت هذا الموضوع
اعتبره مثل قسم الحوار الجاد
للمناقشة في اي موضوع اي عضو يختاره
والموضوع يظل اسبوع حتى ياخد حقه ويتمكن اغلب الاعضاء من وضع ارائهم فيه
رجااءا اللي عنده اي ملاحظه من اي نوع يضيغها بالاخير هدغنا مشترك وهو تطوير القسم الانجليزي
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Due to believing that we are all one big family, and because this forum is our second home
I put this tread so we can discuss every week a different issue
And because we're after all friends, we'll start with


ولاننا كلنا اصدقاء اول موضوع عن الصداقة


Perfect friendship is based on goodness where friends love each other for what they are and not for any incidental quality, they desire desire the good of their friends for the friends’ sake
True friendship is like a pretty flower, never gets withered by age, but gets more beautiful with time...

True friends are those who are there for you unconditionally. Never do they question, but always offer support no matter what the circumstances are. Best Friends are the people worth living for.




The previous quotes are true ,but does true friendship still exist
and what do you think of friendship?
please feel free to add any queston about friendship so we can discuss together




done with the first topic and feel free to suggest a new one


اول موضوع عن الصداقة خلص

زهرة الكاميليا 22-08-08 12:17 AM

Hi Hamsa
Great idea really because as you said, we need to share our thoughts together so that we get to know each other better

and you've chosen an interesting topic as a begining

Wait for me I'm gonna come back and start talking with you tomorrow non stop hhhhhhhh
because I am too sleepy now really
But I like to talk about friendship because I think the greatest thing in the world is to have a true friend

best regards hamsa for the fantastic idea
see you soooooooooon

همسه ود 22-08-08 04:24 PM

thanks Zahra I'll wait for you and the others so we can start

زهرة الكاميليا 22-08-08 09:26 PM

Hi evryone
Hiiiiii Hamsa

Ok as for me i do believe that true friends do exist till now, yes.
it depends on us really. I mean if we are good friends, we would certainly have good friends
it's really that simple
we need to treat our friends the way we want them to treat us don't you think so??


همسه ود 22-08-08 11:14 PM

I agree with you Zahra but it' really depend on what a good friend for you mean
each one of us have his own idea of a good friend
For example for me a good friend is the one who thinks of you at times when you are not there, reminds you of what you have forgotten, helps you put the past behind you but understands when you need to hold on to it a little longer, , smiles for you and, helps you become a better person, and most importantly loves you!

I hope other members will join us soon

همسه ود 23-08-08 02:55 PM

I guess no body want to discuss

darla 23-08-08 10:39 PM

i've been blessed with a long term friendship (18 Years), sometimes i wonder how we managed to keep it.. but i realized something... that we've accepted each other simlpy without trying to change one another...


thanks for lovely topic

همسه ود 24-08-08 12:08 AM

wawwwww I wish you'll make it as friends for your whole life inshalah
it's very important to accept each other as we are no need to try to be someone else just so you'll be loved . we can't hide the real us for a long time soon or ater it will show up
Thanks Darla for sharing and please try to came next week we'd love to know your opinion in the next topic

لبيب 24-08-08 07:17 AM

: one kind true people
true people are true friends
almost hard to find and hard to miss

cutegirl123 24-08-08 10:35 PM

waters may dry..
flowers may die..
but true friends will never say goodbye

I love this saying

friendship is important in our lives, however, became difficult to find real friendship

همسه ود 31-08-08 03:39 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة لبيب (المشاركة 1606883)
: one kind true people
true people are true friends
almost hard to find and hard to miss


thanks labib hope you'll be able to discuss with us on the next subject

همسه ود 31-08-08 03:41 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة cutegirl123 (المشاركة 1608179)
waters may dry..
flowers may die..
but true friends will never say goodbye

I love this saying

friendship is important in our lives, however, became difficult to find real friendship


thanks cute girl I love this saying too
and please if you have anything you want to discuss with us write it here

maya el khaldi 13-09-08 01:19 AM

Sometimes, due to being sociable, we're surrounded by alot of friends
but the real issue is how to deferentiate between a simple frien and the real one
For me: friend in need is friend indeed
and here is how to make the deference
A Simple Friend has never seen you cry.
A Real Friend has shoulders soggy from your tears.
A Simple Friend doesn't know your parent's first names.
A Real Friend has their phone numbers in the address book.
A Simple Friend may bring a present coming to your party.
A Real Friend comes early to help you cook and stays late to help you clean.
A Simple Friend hates it when you call after he/she has gone to bed.
A Real Friend asks you why you took so long to call.
A Simple Friend seeks to talk with you about your problems.
A Real Friend seeks to help you with your problems.
A Simple Friend wonders about your romantic history.
A Real Friend could blackmail you with it.
A Simple Friend, when visiting, acts like a guest.
A Real Friend opens your refrigerator and helps himself.
A Simple Friend thinks the friendship is over when you have an argument.
A Real Friend knows that it's not a friendship until after you've had a fight.
A Simple Friend expects you to always be there for them.
A Real Friend expects to always be there for you!


So what do you think

amer_6630 15-09-08 01:45 AM

u made this topic amazing hamsa and it deserve installation for a while and i hope u will open the next topic so we can discuss



عاشقة رغد ووليد 15-09-08 11:15 PM

Hello hamoosa I'm sorry but I am busy now booking seats for me later that, God willing

همسه ود 16-09-08 07:53 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة maya el khaldi (المشاركة 1638417)
Sometimes, due to being sociable, we're surrounded by alot of friends
but the real issue is how to deferentiate between a simple frien and the real one
For me: friend in need is friend indeed
and here is how to make the deference
A Simple Friend has never seen you cry.
A Real Friend has shoulders soggy from your tears.
A Simple Friend doesn't know your parent's first names.
A Real Friend has their phone numbers in the address book.
A Simple Friend may bring a present coming to your party.
A Real Friend comes early to help you cook and stays late to help you clean.
A Simple Friend hates it when you call after he/she has gone to bed.
A Real Friend asks you why you took so long to call.
A Simple Friend seeks to talk with you about your problems.
A Real Friend seeks to help you with your problems.
A Simple Friend wonders about your romantic history.
A Real Friend could blackmail you with it.
A Simple Friend, when visiting, acts like a guest.
A Real Friend opens your refrigerator and helps himself.
A Simple Friend thinks the friendship is over when you have an argument.
A Real Friend knows that it's not a friendship until after you've had a fight.
A Simple Friend expects you to always be there for them.
A Real Friend expects to always be there for you!


So what do you think




I totaly agree with you Maya and we all have a real friend he doesn't have all what you said but we get along just fine because we both try and I think that's the key
thanks again dear and i'll wait for your opinion in the next topic

همسه ود 16-09-08 07:54 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة عاشقة رغد ووليد (المشاركة 1644102)
Hello hamoosa I'm sorry but I am busy now booking seats for me later that, God willing



hello dear achika
we'll keep a seat for you and i'll love to know your opinion in the next topic

همسه ود 16-09-08 07:56 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة amer_6630 (المشاركة 1642318)
u made this topic amazing hamsa and it deserve installation for a while and i hope u will open the next topic so we can discuss





thanks Ameer for your trust
i'll post the new topic now
please tell us your opinion in it

همسه ود 16-09-08 08:25 PM

The topic of this week is about APLOGIZE
hope you'll like it

موضوع اليوم هو الاعتذار اتمنى يعجبكم



الاعتذار والتاسف هل هو نقص في حق الانسان؟



appolozige and saying you are sorry does it make you feel inferieur


الاعتذار او التأسف هل هو اهانه للشخص


is it an insult


الاعتذار اوالتاسف هل هو دليل الضعف والخضوع

or a prouve of weakness and submission


حينما نقوم بالاعتداء الى شخص بغض النظر عن نوع الاعتداء
ثم نحس بالذنب تجاهه هل نعتذر منه؟



When we attack a person regardless of the type of assault
Then felt guilty do we apologize to him?

وعند اعتذارنا هل نحس بالاحباط الشديد ونشعر بضعفنا ؟ ام ان الاعتذار بالنسبه لنا وجه لاظهار احترام الذات وأسلوب راقي للتعامل مع الغير؟

and if we did , do we feel frustrated and vulnerble? or we belive that admetting that we are sorry is a way to show self esteem
and refined mannerof dealing with others


اطرح بين ايديكم هذه التساؤلات واتمنى ان اجد تفاعلكم


I leave these questions in your hands which I like to discuss with you so we can find answers together

عاشقة رغد ووليد 16-09-08 11:04 PM

مرحبا عزيزتي همسة أسفة للتأخر ويسعدني المشاركة في هذا الموضوع أولا أعرف أن وجهة نظري للأمور غريبة قليلا لكني تربيت في وسط جعل نظرتي للأمور مرتبكة الإعتذار تصرف جميل وطيب وأنا أعترف بذلك وأشجع عليه لكنني لا أحبه أعتذر نادرا وعندما أعلم أني أخطأت بشدة لكن في غالب الأوقات أحس أنه مهانة وذل كبير لا أعتذر إطلاقا من إخوتي ولا أظنني سأفعل يوما لا أعتذر من والدي أو أصدقائي ربما لقلة تصرفاتي الخاطئة معهم ربما أنا أعتذر لكن ليس بالطريقة التقليدية بل بطريقة غير مباشرة ولا تجعلني أحط من قيمتي أسفة أختي لكن هذه أنا


Hello dear hamsa regretted the delay and I am pleased to participate in this subject
I know that my view of things a bit strange but I brought up in the middle of making my vision of things confused
An apologiz is beautiful and good and I admit I encourage it but I do not like him
Rarely apologize and I know when I erred seriously but often times it felt great humiliation for people who are
Do not apologize at all of my brothers
No apology from my father or my friends
Maybe for a few wrong act with
Maybe I apologize but not the traditional way but in an indirect way does not make me basest of values
But these regrets sister
this is me

~!D.u.K.e!~ 21-09-08 03:34 AM

yea yea but i don't know what's you are talking about it but just i know it's for friendship and it's so good and I HAVE SCHOOOOOL TOMORROW bye bye see ya tomorrow

jen 21-09-08 04:51 AM

hi hamsa
what an interesting topic to discuss
for me,saying i'm sorry depends on the person whom i'm saying this to
i mean if he sees this as asign of weaknees or humoulation'then i would never appologize
but if he sees this as asign of respecting him and loving and feeling bad to hurt him...then it's o.k..i do it
and usually i appologize to mum & my close friends cuz they understand me well

BENT EL-Q8 21-09-08 06:22 AM

hi hamosa
the topic is so nice
in my opinion
el apologiz shy great o0o if some one e3tethar frome me ykbar b my eyes bs any a3tether men a7ad la
i dont why
maby a3tether menah b6areqa '3air mobashara
mo l2n el apologiz yqalel men qemat elperson wala l2n y3tabar ehana bs madry !!
هاي هموس..
موضوع رووعه
برايي ان الاعتذار شي عظيم و ااذا احد اعتذر مني يكبر بعيني بس اني اعتذر من احد لا يمكن اعتذر منه بطريقة غير مباشرة
مادري ليش!!
مو لان الاعتذار يقلل من قيمه الشخص ولا لان يعتبر اهانه بس مادري
سوووري لاني ما تكلمت بالانجليزي
بس انجليزيتي مو ذاك الزود*_^
فاكتفيت بالاحرف الانجليزية هع
وسوري بعد عالرد المختصر بس تعرفين صبح وصايمه = مخ رايح فيها

park hae in 21-09-08 11:56 AM

One day Friendship & Love met one-another. Love asked Friendship -Why do You exist if Im there? So Friendship said -To give a Smile to those eyes in which You leave Tears.


very nice idea hamsa
and about friendship i think its very very important in our life
friend in need is a friend indeed

darla 21-09-08 09:40 PM

Hi Hamsa,


Apology is worthless if not accombined with true remorse feeling. i don't think apology is weakness its a heartly expression to make things right again hopefully

i think we shouldn't block or turn down anyone who try to apologizes to us, and we must not seek apologies if we are the one who made mistakes

FOR ME, i do apologize when i have to, because i can't stand the feeling of someone hurts because of me.


so, if anyone think i'm stupid or weak because of that, let it be.


THANKS HAMSA


همسه ود 22-09-08 03:29 AM


first of all I'm awfully sorry for being late to reply


اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة عاشقة رغد ووليد (المشاركة 1647123)
مرحبا عزيزتي همسة أسفة للتأخر ويسعدني المشاركة في هذا الموضوع أولا أعرف أن وجهة نظري للأمور غريبة قليلا لكني تربيت في وسط جعل نظرتي للأمور مرتبكة الإعتذار تصرف جميل وطيب وأنا أعترف بذلك وأشجع عليه لكنني لا أحبه أعتذر نادرا وعندما أعلم أني أخطأت بشدة لكن في غالب الأوقات أحس أنه مهانة وذل كبير لا أعتذر إطلاقا من إخوتي ولا أظنني سأفعل يوما لا أعتذر من والدي أو أصدقائي ربما لقلة تصرفاتي الخاطئة معهم ربما أنا أعتذر لكن ليس بالطريقة التقليدية بل بطريقة غير مباشرة ولا تجعلني أحط من قيمتي أسفة أختي لكن هذه أنا


Hello dear hamsa regretted the delay and I am pleased to participate in this subject
I know that my view of things a bit strange but I brought up in the middle of making my vision of things confused
An apologiz is beautiful and good and I admit I encourage it but I do not like him
Rarely apologize and I know when I erred seriously but often times it felt great humiliation for people who are
Do not apologize at all of my brothers
No apology from my father or my friends
Maybe for a few wrong act with
Maybe I apologize but not the traditional way but in an indirect way does not make me basest of values
But these regrets sister
this is me




I know what you mean Achika and I guess to some degree you're right. Each one of us has his own way to apolozige , and you're is one of them
I'm glad you share your point of view with us
thanks
:flowers2:

همسه ود 22-09-08 03:31 AM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة ~!D.u.K.e!~ (المشاركة 1656043)
yea yea but i don't know what's you are talking about it but just i know it's for friendship and it's so good and I HAVE SCHOOOOOL TOMORROW bye bye see ya tomorrow

best of luck with school Duke

همسه ود 22-09-08 03:35 AM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة jenhoud (المشاركة 1656162)
hi hamsa
what an interesting topic to discuss
for me,saying i'm sorry depends on the person whom i'm saying this to
i mean if he sees this as asign of weaknees or humoulation'then i would never appologize
but if he sees this as asign of respecting him and loving and feeling bad to hurt him...then it's o.k..i do it
and usually i appologize to mum & my close friends cuz they understand me well


thanks Jebhoud for your reply
I agree with you it's easier to say sorry to people who know you because they'll know that you say it out of love and feeling bad for them and not because you were weak or something
thanks again

همسه ود 30-09-08 12:25 AM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة BENT EL-Q8 (المشاركة 1656305)
hi hamosa
the topic is so nice
in my opinion
el apologiz shy great o0o if some one e3tethar frome me ykbar b my eyes bs any a3tether men a7ad la
i dont why
maby a3tether menah b6areqa '3air mobashara
mo l2n el apologiz yqalel men qemat elperson wala l2n y3tabar ehana bs madry !!
هاي هموس..
موضوع رووعه
برايي ان الاعتذار شي عظيم و ااذا احد اعتذر مني يكبر بعيني بس اني اعتذر من احد لا يمكن اعتذر منه بطريقة غير مباشرة
مادري ليش!!
مو لان الاعتذار يقلل من قيمه الشخص ولا لان يعتبر اهانه بس مادري
سوووري لاني ما تكلمت بالانجليزي
بس انجليزيتي مو ذاك الزود*_^
فاكتفيت بالاحرف الانجليزية هع
وسوري بعد عالرد المختصر بس تعرفين صبح وصايمه = مخ رايح فيها


مرحبا بنوتة حبيبتي شرفني وجودك واسعدني رائيك الصراحه
طريقتك كثير منا بيستغملها لان احيانا انك تعتذر بطريقة مباشرة بيكون صعب و مابيساعد باي شي اللي غلطت بحقه
شكرا غاليتي مرة ثانية
نورتييييي:friends:

همسه ود 30-09-08 12:28 AM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة park hae in (المشاركة 1656484)
One day Friendship & Love met one-another. Love asked Friendship -Why do You exist if Im there? So Friendship said -To give a Smile to those eyes in which You leave Tears.


very nice idea hamsa
and about friendship i think its very very important in our life
friend in need is a friend indeed


awsome quotes park hae in
I love it and it's the first time I heard about it
thanks you for you reply and I agree friendship is very important in our life yet I'd appreciate it if you tell us about your opinion in this week topic Apologize

همسه ود 30-09-08 12:34 AM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة darla (المشاركة 1657113)
Hi Hamsa,


Apology is worthless if not accombined with true remorse feeling. i don't think apology is weakness its a heartly expression to make things right again hopefully

i think we shouldn't block or turn down anyone who try to apologizes to us, and we must not seek apologies if we are the one who made mistakes

FOR ME, i do apologize when i have to, because i can't stand the feeling of someone hurts because of me.


so, if anyone think i'm stupid or weak because of that, let it be.


THANKS HAMSA



thanks dear Darly for your reply and for sharing your point of view
AND be sure it's not a weakness or stupidity to admit one's fault
you really have to be strong to do so
thanks again dear

gogo22212 19-02-09 10:54 PM

Hi Hamsa, nice idea & good topic
:55:
As for Friendship, i think life without it is miserable, sometimes Love can give us both Love and friendship but we can't live without any kind of friendship, there has to be something close to this sort of relationship, We can't do witout
:friends::friends::friends:
And because we arn't all angels but just Humans, sometimes we make mistakes
When that moment comes, we hurt people we love and we don't mean it
So, we have to make it up to them in any way we can if not with our deeds, sometimes a simple apology, simple word could do
:f63: :flowers2::flowers2:
Life goes on, If we keep doing mistakes, hurting important people to us,,, eventually, they'd leave us and life won't be the same,won't have a meaning any more
That's where the importance of APOLOGIES comes from, they keep our relationships intact before it's too late
:friends:
We can't live alone, Isolate aour selves, We need different Relationships to keep us going
Friendship is a highly needed one in our lives
:friends:
Different ways of Apologies make things right again
:55:

gogo22212 19-02-09 11:53 PM


Apologies have to be rarely used - i think- cause if go saying sorry again and again and again.., it won't have a meaning any more
when u apologise, you have to mean it and swear u won't do whatever you're apologising for if you can, and it has to be followed by good behavior, i think
:flowers2::flowers2::flowers2:
As for me.., i try hard not to do anything that 'd hurt anyone in order not to apologise for what i did cause i think it's a big deal to say sorry, not so humilating But also not to be done frequently
but when i hurt somebody, i DO apologise... i think it's only fair to let them know i feel so and i try to DO anything that makes them feel better
I know it's not a sign of weakness, but i still can't show people my feelings or tell them how i feel
:friends:
but i'm feeling a little progress about this issue which is (not anyone But someone who is really close to me and not too much emotions) god help me with that
:lol::lol:

لبيب 25-02-09 09:58 PM

اقتباس:

we arn't all angels but just Humans
so some are angels
hehe
.......


feeling are personal
deep and full of mystery
they touch us in every possible way
and they are huge part of us
and evey person has his own thoughts
even ignorance is some how a feeling
also they can be as simple as saying hi to your friend

gogo22212 26-02-09 02:25 AM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة لبيب (المشاركة 1877482)
so some are angels
hehe
.......
feeling are personal
deep and full of mystery
they touch us in every possible way
and they are huge part of us
and evey person has his own thoughts
even ignorance is some how a feeling
also they can be as simple as saying hi to your friend



maybe there is one or two in diguise
but mostly, i think i said this cause i'm still influenced by the story i read (the host by Stephenie Myere) it really affected me
:lol:
as 4 the rest, i agree with u, feelings are personal, complicated and v. simple
i think ignorance is a big one though, cause it keeps out all other kinds of emotions
also a simple HI can have lots of emotions... depends on Who u r saying it to & How if u ask me
:lol:

neurotransaction 17-03-09 03:38 PM

About friendship
I thinkthese days nothing calls a pure friendsip, or my friend is like me
Islam wanted us to be like one body but now we have torned this body away
i have been throgh many relations and exained many freinds to be ME but the result was zero out of more than 30
So i decided to be my friend yes my best friend is Me
dont wonder it is not a kind of Schezophrenia
but test any friend now ifit is a matter of chosen in work or bride or groom or money or any big thing to chose you or him
sorry he will without thinking chose himself
if u become a lollipop ur friend will suck u dry

رذاذ المطر 10-05-11 11:07 PM

hello everybody
it,s a nice topic Hamsah

i think not easy for a person to have a good friend
we must pay alot to make someone love us
i mean we should give that someone all the love and care
if he or she feel that we love him or her
no doubt we will have them as a good friends


park hae in 12-05-11 11:35 AM

are u talking about frindship guys!!
its so easy but we have to choose the right person
and treat him or her the same way we want them to treat us
that simple.... i wish u luck everybody to find the real friend
because its really the important thing in life

ŜăƦƌ 23-05-11 08:33 PM

اقتباس:

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة park hae in (المشاركة 2740442)
are u talking about frindship guys!!
its so easy but we have to choose the right person
and treat him or her the same way we want them to treat us
that simple.... i wish u luck everybody to find the real friend
because its really the important thing in life

U'r right hayoona
it's important thing
but i don't really trust about
friendship
maybe it's because something
happened n the past

رذاذ المطر 15-06-11 02:53 AM

^
don't make what happened in the past affect your future
people are not the same
i'm sure you will find a friend that you can trust him
don't be depressed
you deserve to have a good friend

همسات روح 26-08-11 10:46 PM

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WELL WELL
I see many people here are dispiontted
well as my friend said friendship exist but you have to choose the right person in the right time and place

well i did so and i have the best friends ever*****************
cool

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